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I saw this meme on Tumblr and thought I'd do it.

The character I least understand: Ashildr. She's an imaginative storyteller! No, wait, she's not! She's crazy and angry from being immortal and abandoned. No, she's not! She has memory problems! No, she doesn't! She cares about people abandoned by the Doctor! No, she doesn't! Just like most of Moffat's recurring characters, she changes to fit whatever the episode needs, but even within just one episode, she's all over the place.

Interactions I enjoyed the most: The Doctor and Donna. Well, duh!

The character who scares me the most: The humans in the bus on Midnight. Seriously. They are real.

The character who is most like me: Malcolm Taylor. Awkward and hesitant, a science nerd, overly-logical, and a minor character with just a few lines. That's me!

Hottest looks character: You'd think I'd write the Tenth Doctor here in a heartbeat, and if not, Captain Jack, but no, for me, the nod still goes to the Fifth Doctor.

One thing I dislike about my fave character: Tenth Doctor - I dislike that he completely lost his sense of purpose - of everything that made him the Doctor - while he was with Rose. This is specifically about the Tenth Doctor, because the Ninth Doctor didn't do this.

One thing I like about my hated character: Clara - I really liked how she accepted responsibility for her actions (for once) in "Face the Raven" and faced her death with courage.

A quote or scene that haunts me: Sharaz Jek leaning in close to Peri to tell her how beautiful she is, how she's going to live with him forever and that she makes him forget all of his pain and darkness. You want creepy and haunting? That's it, right there. *shudder*

A death that left me indifferent: Amy and Rory. Yes, I cried at the scene because of how it affected the Doctor, but I was completely unable to consider their fate tragic. Yes, they went back in time, but they lived the rest of their lives - fifty-plus years - happily with each other.

A character I wish died but didn’t: Clara. If she had actually died or left at any of the times she should have - the Doctor's timestream / the end of Series 8 / growing old / the Raven - she would have had a great / great / great / good story and ending. But no, Moffat made her the Doctor. I guess his Mary Sue had to outdo RTD's Mary Sue.

My ship that never sailed: Yeah, if you know me at all, you know I don't have an answer to this.



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Sep. 19th, 2016 08:17 pm (UTC)
Most of Moffat's characters are like that; it seems that they are "plot devices" rather than living beings, and I also liked that Clara faced up to how really stupid she was to try and be the Doctor, and that it cost her life... and then Moff had to ruin that, too!

Love the Ten/Donna interaction, they were both very good for each other!

Yup, we know you don't ship.... so none of them would sail, they wouldn't even leave port!
Sep. 19th, 2016 08:33 pm (UTC)
Yup! My characters prefer to stay in port, on dry land, in a nice cozy pub, sharing chips and ale and laughing at all those characters out at sea, caught in storms. ;)
Sep. 19th, 2016 08:43 pm (UTC)
You don't let them get caught in the Oncoming Storm, that's for sure!
Sep. 19th, 2016 09:34 pm (UTC)
This is why continuity still matters even within the wibbly wobbly universe of Doctor Who. If the characters are not consistent, then they're undermined.

Sometimes I think the non-shippers have a point. Let the characters just interact, and only have relationships when the storyline truly calls for it.

Maybe I'll do this one. Of course, you know some of my answers will be vastly different. :)
Sep. 19th, 2016 10:07 pm (UTC)
Yes! That's why continuity is so important to me! Both universe continuity and character continuity.

I sure hope your answers will be different! That's what makes these fun - getting to see everyone else's opinions and learning to see things in different ways.
Sep. 19th, 2016 10:44 pm (UTC)
Exactly... the characters need to be consistent. Whether it's consistently selfish or consistently looking out for everyone else, the character needs to be real. Growth is one thing, but this business of having one character just be a tool is not right!

The non-shippers may have a point, but the case can be made for a ship if it's a natural growth of the relationship they have. I can totally see best friends just naturally develop a deep feeling for each other because they know each other so well. That happens in real life; it's not a pie in the sky lust, just a deep and very real love, good partners, many things in common, having great fun relationship. When things get tough, these can always rely on their friendship and each other to carry them through.
Sep. 19th, 2016 11:00 pm (UTC)
I'm all for ships if the story supports it. (I just don't ship on my own.) It has to have that natural growth you talk about, or some other grounded establishment of the relationship. Some examples both ways:

Ten/Rose: Whereas I hate this ship, because I hate Rose and highly dislike how the relationship ruined the Doctor, the deep relationship between her and Nine was well established could easily have blossomed into love. The show built this up ship well. (I just really question the Doctor's taste.)

Ten/Donna: The deep friendship between these two never did cross the love line, but it could have, given a bit more time. It's a very natural progression for fans to move this in this direction, because the foundation of the relationship were strong and real.

Amy/Rory: The show paired them at the beginning and both characters were unwaveringly devoted to each other. This is a no-brainer.

Clara/Danny: This is the real problematic one. The two characters went from Clara's seriously creepy stalker behavior during their first date to "I love you" two or three episodes later without any intervening scenes showing them developing their relationship at all. The lack of continuity ruined this ship, and looking at fanart and fanfic, it looks like the fans didn't buy it.

Edited at 2016-09-19 11:01 pm (UTC)
Sep. 19th, 2016 11:14 pm (UTC)
Absolutely agreed, although I'm not sure about Nine/Rose. Rose is an interesting character, she started out with Mickey and then went off with the Doctor. I also question his taste if he would have gone for it; Rose is a child, both chronologically and in maturity. I don't think she was good for him, especially after he regenerated.

Amy/Rory: In spite of Amy's somewhat impetuous attitude, you are right. When it came right down to it, she was unwaveringly loyal to her husband, and he always was loyal to her.

Clara/Danny: Just eww! That is not a relationship; it's based on lying to each other constantly. If you have to do that, then you don't belong together, no matter how many times we are told you do!

And finally, Ten/Donna: Agreed that, given more time, they could have totally gotten it together. It is certainly realistic; it's what I have with my own husband, so I know it's true.
Sep. 20th, 2016 01:15 am (UTC)
Good answers, honey!

Sep. 25th, 2016 03:30 pm (UTC)
I totally agree about Ashildr. I liked the imaginative storyteller but later on she didn't feel like a real person at all. Typical Moffat writing.

Malcolm's the best. I love how he shamelessly shouts "I love you" to the Doctor but when it's needed, is focused on his work and doesn't close the portal even when is threatened by the gun. A genius, a nerd as you say, a good man and a fan, and we see all his sides in those "few lines".

I don't get how Amy's and Rory's fate was supposed to be tragic either. They had each other, lived long lives and from the first encounter with the Angels we were told you could have a good life outside of your time stream, like Kathy. They were thinking of stopping travelling with the Doctor anyway. And River was allowed to see them. So it wasn't emotional, it wasn't logical and failed as the end of the big chapter in Eleven's history.
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